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Monday, January 9, 2012

Public Response to Fr. Z's "Liturgical Road Kill!!"

Over at WDTPRS, Fr. Zuhlsdorf rants about some pretty tough prompted me to respond thusly and in full solidarity with his view.

This is a reflection from Monsignor Bandas in 1968...was he a prophet?  Read below:

A "spirit of the council" is genuine when it flows organically from, or is intrinsically connected with, a council decree or an official interpretation of the decree by the Holy See. A "spirit of the council" is spurious when it is opposed to a council decree or in no wise derives from it or is based upon it.
Here are a few practices now being introduced into parishes which have no basis in the council decrees and in some instances are in opposition to them. The council nowhere says:

1) That infant baptism is to be abolished;
2) That children's confessions are to be omitted before first Holy Communion and postponed several years beyond the age of reason;
3) That general confessions and general absolutions are to replace private individual confessions; Vatican II urges the frequent reception of the sacrament, points out the great value of the Sacrament of Penance for the religious life, urges priests to make themselves easily available for confessions, and orders pastors to call in outside priests who can hear confessions in the language of the people;
4) That preaching should be concerned exclusively with social problems and the brotherhood of man; on the contrary, bishops and priests should "point out the divinely revealed way to give glory to God and thereby to attain to eternal happiness;"
5) That main altars are to be dismantled or removed; the pastor is only the administrator, not the owner, of parish property;
6) That the altar railing and pulpit are to be removed from churches;
7) That statues and the Stations of the Cross are to be eliminated;
8) That daily Mass is to be abolished and replaced by a bible service;
9) That a plain table is to replace the main altar;
10) That the laity may recite the whole canon of the Mass with the celebrant; this was forbidden by the commission on the liturgy in April 1968;
11) That provisional, temporary, movable altars, facing the people, are to be set up in front of the main altar; on January 25, 1966, the commission on the liturgy ordered these removed;
12) That the Latin Mass, high Mass, and choirs have been abolished;
13) That the laity may crowd around the altar inside the sanctuary; the directions for the participated Mass presupposed that the lay people are in the body of the church;
14) That the priest may say Mass without the prescribed vestments, or without candles and a crucifix;
15) That selections from secular writing may be read at Mass;
16) That the celebrant is to leave the altar after the "Lamb of God" and shake hands with the people;
17) That women may assist at the divine services without a head covering;
18) That all Canon Law has been temporarily suspended;
19) That a priest may leave out or change or add any word to tell Mass prayers;
20) That a priest may smile while saying Mass and consecrating; that communicants may smile at the priest before receiving Holy Communion; that the celebrant may add the first name of the communicant to the communion formula;
21) That we must receive Holy Communion standing; we may receive kneeling or standing, but if we receive standing we must come in procession and make a "reverence" to the Blessed Sacrament before receiving the Eucharist;
22) That the celebrant may place the Sacred Host in the hands of the communicant who then communicates himself;
23) That Holy Communion may be given to non-Catholics;
24) That the celebrant may give the chalice at Holy Communion to whomever he wishes;
25) That in the Latin rite the celebrant may consecrate a whole loaf of bread or a bun;
26) That you may have hootenanny and rock rebellion Masses;
27) That priests and ministers may exchange places during divine services;
28) That we should stop making converts;
29) That devotion to Our Lady should be downgraded and de-emphasized;
30) That the Mass is a mere "meal;"
32) That Holy Communion is merely "holy Food;"
33) That Sisters and women may act as Rectors;
34) That private devotions, especially the Rosary, Holy Hour, Benediction and 40 Hours Devotion are no longer to be fostered;
35) That at the end of Mass the priest may say: "The Mass goes on forever; carry it with you into the world."
 How many of the 35 points have come to pass? Being the peritus to Archbishop Binz, he was there for the whole of the Council.  I would point you first, to read through Fr. Z's post...through the link, then look at #26.

I completely support Fr. Z and there is a reason some of us are from "The Farm."  What Fr. Z is speaking of is no joke.  What I am speaking of is no joke.  We need to take our Catholicity back!


  1. Given that it was 1968, it was probably a documentary list of a sampling of errors in local parishes. What's scandalous is that these errors have lived on and sprouted new hydra heads.

  2. From how I understand the conversations which took place between Mons. Bandas and Mons. Schuler, these were more than that. These were a listing of the "ideas" to be promoted immediately after the Holy Synod, following the Council. Most stuck, a few didn't.

    But considering that this list was compiled in 1968 and the majority still exist, it is a sad commentary on the Church's liturgical leadership.